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    ISIS is pissing me the frick off! They are one reason why America needs the individual's right to bear arms. If they have their way, we're going to need them. Have you heard about some of the bullsh!t they're up to?! And they claim they're going to raise an Islamic flag at the White House?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi View Post
    ISIS is pissing me the frick off!
    I hate to admit it, but it looks like Obama was right in not choosing sides in Syria. He could have ended up supporting ISIS.
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    ISIS is directly the fault of the man who told us that the terror threat has become minimal since his time in the Office of President.

    Obama sucks but knows nothing about Vacuum . . . .

    And to excaberate the problem, he tells them publicly what he will and will not do . . .

    The theory, apparently, is to attempt to support the Kurds from the air, and attempt to provide them logistical support of arms and munitions and literally enlist the Kurdish "Pershmerga" soldiers to engage the ISIS and drive them back out of Northwestern Iraq and Northern Iraq . . Which seems to be working . . But . . The Kurds will probably stop and secure their borders once they have gained their land and people back, and then demand autonomy. And this time they might get it because as long as the Kurds hold that part of Iraq, Turkey and it's President Ergodan are safe . . And Turkey, for 40 years, has fought Autonomy of Kurdistan (Northern Iraq) because once the Kurds have their own country, they are going to want the rest of it, in Southeastern Turkey . .

    With that little lesson on Politics and Tribal territories, Obozo is gonna be left with finding an army as tough as the Pershmerga . . which equates only to our Marines and Army Rangers . . Or ISIS will run amok in Iraq, and still endangers Jordan and even Israel . . Not to mention the Gulf States . .

    There's a lot of nervous Arabs in the Middle East . . and none of them like any of Obama's Ideas . . except the ISIS . .
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    Iraq can do well if they share the toys, cookies and playground among all their people. Genocidal fun, such as ISIS enjoys, has been normal between factions/religions/ethnic groups/quilting clubs into recent times in the middle east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    Iraq can do well if they share the toys, cookies and playground among all their people. Genocidal fun, such as ISIS enjoys, have been normal between factions/religions/ethnic groups/quilting clubs into recent times in the middle east.
    Easy to say, but hard to do when a population is torn between following secular leaders and religious leaders with divergent agendas. ISIS, Hamas, Taliban, etc have enjoyed their successes because they wage religious wars by convincing their followers that God's laws supersede man made laws.
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    Heh, heh, up until the ISIS situation, the Iraqi leadership (Maliki, etc.) didn't want to share either political or military power with either the Sunni Minority or, especially the Kurds. And Turkey didn't want Maliki giving the Kurds any opportunity for Autonomy either . .

    Now, both entities need the Kurds because they're the only capable fighting force in the area . . Arabs have always excelled at guerrilla, or asymmetrical warfare but have never (In all of history) shown the ability to fight sustained face to face battles . . On the other hand, the Kurds are probably the most fearsome and fearless fighters in that area . . they tend to make the Pashtuns of Afghanistan look like a bunch of old ladies in a knotting circle . . And they have the ability to fight with well organized offensive tactics . .

    But like I said, it's doubtful that once they run the ISIS (Or ISIL, Whatever) out of their territory and remove the threat, they'll quit advancing and go defensive . . They won't fight for the Arabs . . Unless there's something in it for them, and the Arabs haven't offered much, yet . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by large View Post
    Arabs have always excelled at guerrilla, or asymmetrical warfare but have never (In all of history) shown the ability to fight sustained face to face battles . . .
    That's what Mohammed taught them. Raid your neighbors camp, kill the Master, take all his possessions including his wife and children. Use them as you wish or sell them as slaves. That way no one has to work since they are all killing each other. What a great prophet he was, right up there with Buddha, Christ, Confusious and the Bagavadh Gita. But his command to convert, pay a tax or die seems to have been sucessful as there are 1.2 Billion with a "B" Moslems in the world. This "religion" needs to go on the trash heap of history, the sooner the better. Or in a modern age, with modern tools of war, we are likely to see an EMP launched against us and/or Europe i.e. western civilization. Wipe out Christ, Buddha and Hindu's. The Chinese seem to take the sayings of Confusious as interesting but not a religion.
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    The problem is, as I see it, is that those who adhere to this "Religion" have Long Memories and no human compassion or tolerance at all . . They have consistently used 9/11 as their day of attack over the ages . . So one can only conclude that the Muslim Jihad will continue until the religion is stomped out, completely and the Quran is burned and buried in the annals of time . .

    Genocide? Sure . . Just depends on who's going to commit it . . But if the rest of the world doesn't go "All IN", then they ill be the losers . .

    And there can be no quarter. Normal rules of engagement cannot be used because the jihadists refuse to honor any rules of war . . No compassion, no mercy and no survivors . .
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    Even powerful Turkish leaders have chosen to poo poo the secular basis of Atatürk's genius due to theocratic addictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by large View Post
    And there can be no quarter. Normal rules of engagement cannot be used because the jihadists refuse to honor any rules of war . . No compassion, no mercy and no survivors . .
    And we do know the technology of war killing. Cluster Bombs are really effective at killing every living thing in their range. Fuel Air bombs suck up all the oxygen in an area suffocating everything. Warthogs that fire 4000 rounds per minute. Not to mention Nukes. If it comes to unrestricted war - they lose we win therefore the case from their point of view for the EMP - take us down at home and don't think for a moment they would hesitate. I fully expect them to attempt it in the near future. Its just too attractive of a game changer.
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