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Loren Swelk
12-04-2009, 11:28 PM
Superintendent talks of performance based pay for teachers and doing away with tenure.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/78567227.html

large
12-05-2009, 11:08 AM
Let's see how the Teacher's Union handles that!

Loren Swelk
03-31-2011, 12:30 AM
The school board is dancing around the 800 pound gorilla. I understand they have discussed the closing of Central High School along with several elementary schools and closing of Corwin Magnet School and moving it to East High School. They talk about custodial outsourcing and saving a nickel here and a dime here, They cut several admin jobs (Kevin Romero for one) and then restructure the position with another name as a "consultant". When they have to publiclly announce school closures, the proverbially ship is going to hit the sand.

large
03-31-2011, 06:27 AM
They're going to have to justify the layoff of Teaching Staff . . Close a School, bingo, you've done that . . At high school levels, class size hasn't proven to be much of a factor in results . . so back to the 35-40 pupil classrooms and agonizing from the CEA/NEA . .

Basically, the Cadillac is being repossessed . .

Buster.Tripp@Gmail.com
03-31-2011, 12:58 PM
Its about time someone does away with tenure. Now if they would cut from the top, but they wont.

large
03-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Basically, on the Admin costs, you're right Buster . . The New Supt. makes more than the Governor of Colorado. And based on what I've read (and heard from some teachers) she has skills to actually do neither . . at least to earn the $185k they're paying her . .

Marc.N
04-01-2011, 05:47 AM
Essentially, educators claim they can supply the right stuff to create any educational experience - IF - the taxpayers supply money, time and resources. The money and resources are getting painful and no end in sight.

In addition, educators argue parental involvement is the most essential ingredient. Hmm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAhVmjptZMI)....? Who needs teachers if that is the case?

Consider home schooled children are on the increase in the best higher education establishments in the world. This is accomplished by performance on standardized achievement tests, ACT and other measurement instruments.

Home schoolers get their performance at about 5% to 6% of the cost of a government school. Obviously fantastically more efficient. If they had access to even a quarter of what a government student gets methinks it would be amazing what they achieve.

Surveys of home schooled children and their government schooled peers are astounding. They are twice as likely to be actively involved in their communities and civic affairs, have double the happiness quotient of their government trained peers.

Young adults vote about 2 1/2 times the rate of their government schooled peers and as mature adults homeschoolers vote at a rate almost double their government schooled peers.

I do not intend this as a condemnation of government schools and a rant about how great home schooling is. Increased enrollment in parochial and private schools are reported as well. Parents pay out of pocket for these schools.

The increase of middle and upper class participation in home, parochial and private schools is a dire indicator that government schools are becoming increasingly viewed in a negative light.

#1 reason: The child will get a better education at home.

Other top reasons: Government hostility to religious people. Government activist social engineering. Dangerous school environment regarding physical and psychological damage. Other arguments abound.

There is nothing on the horizon to counter these arguments. Government employees, (administrators, teachers) are soldiers that must follow government regulations, red tape and the rules.

Loren Swelk
04-01-2011, 07:49 AM
Basically, on the Admin costs, you're right Buster . . The New Supt. makes more than the Governor of Colorado. And based on what I've read (and heard from some teachers) she has skills to actually do neither . . at least to earn the $185k they're paying her . .

The working rumor is that she was brought in, not for her administrative skills, but to do the hatchet job on schools and teachers. A Pueblo native would fear for her/his life if they suggested closing Central High school, while an out of town administrator can run back to Colorado Springs with most of her new hire administrators and "consultants".

Sandra
04-01-2011, 08:11 AM
BRAVO!!!! @Marc

Sodbuster
04-14-2011, 07:10 AM
I remember being home and public school schooled nearly seventy years ago in rural Colorado. Both did a great job on me and my friends. There weren't many of us, just about fifty kids, k-12. Wonder why small rural schools today in Colorado are outperforming urban Colorado schools. I suspect it's because they are still being home and public school schooled. Takes two jobs or more in urban America to keep beans on the table. Rural kids home school in the old days was a curriculum of before and after school chores, summer work, and outdoor play at home, and public school was a curriculum of three R's, learning how to walk a fine line, respect for teachers and adults, and getting your work done as an individual and no freeloading group work.
What do urban kids do with their free time---------------------you got it.
--------and they love public school group work----guess work is the wrong word here.

large
04-14-2011, 08:21 AM
Being schooled in almost any rural setting usually teaches you practical applications, instead of Political Correctness (Neither correct nor tolerant)

Loren Swelk
04-14-2011, 08:28 AM
Do rural school districts have teacher's unions?

large
04-14-2011, 09:42 AM
Actually, in most cases, YES . . at least in Kansas and Colorado. My mother taught in several rural school districts while I was growing up, and she always belonged to (and swore by) both NEA and CEA. And I'm pretty sure she belonged to KEA as well after the war . . Before we migrated to Colorado . .

But, as sodbuster inferred, the country kids didn't have spare time to hang around the Malt Shop or the corner Gas Station after school. Back in the day, it was get yer keister home, get in your work clothes and do all the things the type of farming your parents did to make a living, called for. Generally, by the time you got through that and did your homework or study, going to sleep was an automatic . . And any opinions about much of anything was handled by your Parents, not some dipshit a couple of years older than you were . .

Don't get me wrong, country kids could (and did) get in as much trouble as city kids, given a little time . . and in a lot of cases, we had better resources . . and longer range . . Remember, most of us started driving tractors when we were 6 or 7 and by the time we got to be 10 or 11, were getting around pretty good in the old man's pickup . . Back then, few, if any cops ventured out in the lanes, preferring to stay on Highway 50 most of the time . .

I could go on, but I won't . . .

Buster.Tripp@Gmail.com
04-14-2011, 11:59 AM
I moved out of colorado or Pueblo because I wanted a better education for my grand kids. I fought to put two kids threw the Pueblo school system along with myself and 8 brothers and sisters all went to Pueblo schools. and I was ashamed of the whole process. Here in Oregon My daughter lives in a little town of about 12.000 people and all three of my grandchildren are on the Honor role. Pueblo breeds way to much hate and they teach it in the schools.

Loren Swelk
04-27-2011, 11:26 PM
No wonder nothing is ever accomplished by the Pueblo City Schools School Board. Here are a few selected quotes from today's Chieftain article:

"He said the first step would be to select a consultant to look into the feasibility"

Followed one paragraph down by:

"In the meantime, Gazette said the district should form a committee to gather facts"

Then:

"He said the district should host public hearings to present the facts and gather feedback"

..and finally:

"When a decision is made, the district must work on a transition plan"

large
04-28-2011, 06:14 AM
First step is to find somebody else to both blame and to lay the blame on . .

Loren Swelk
05-07-2011, 01:46 PM
It is my understanding that the top nine administrators are now from Colorado Springs and live there. They are working on 110 day contracts. Only one in the top ten is left from the previous administration (and a Pueblo resident). The entire building is walking on eggshells.

large
05-07-2011, 02:51 PM
Of course, put people in charge who have no skin in the game . . Good plan, if you want it to spin out of control . . .