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    The ship is finally hitting the sand (cleaned up for posting)
    From today's Chieftain:
    Both men said it didn't seem like Thiebaut had a grasp of the case law and procedural requirements they were talking about.
    "In these discussions with Mr. Thiebaut about these issues, it was my impression that he didn't understand the rules completely," Cornetta said.
    Entire article here
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    Based on the Article in the Chieftain, the whole place is like a Soup Sandwich. No one has any idea of what anyone else is doing, and Johnny K. is still a loose cannon . . Age has done nothing for the boy . . Add to that, they have no leadership, and it's a mess . .
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    Looks like they retired Johnny K . . Put Saul Trujillo in his place, head of D.A. Investigations . . Know Saul well, they got a good man, laid back and not very judgemental . . about anything . .

    On the other hand, they still have a need to replace the key problem . . their "Leader" . . Thiebault is nothing more than a Politician, and not a real good one of those (if any lawyer could be considered a "Good Thing") . .
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    Good, now John can pursue his other life goals, as he puts it.. However it appears by news reports and court transcripts that the D.A.'s employees have absoulutely no faith in their leader or in his abilities. He is going to have to find an elected position in the government sector somewhere, what is next for "plea bargain Bill"?
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    I trust that John had a method to his madness, so to speak. He's a smart guy, he doesn't do anything without a good reason. And we need to realize that these allegations are coming from attorneys who are defending people accused of murder - their job is defense, so they're going to pull any stunts they can and blow whatever they can out of proportion in the defense of their clients.

    Personally I hope John enjoys his retirement. He's a good person who cares about the community, and I think retirement may come difficult for him because he's in a field that he loves with his whole heart and soul. It has been good for him to get back to work after his accident, too, so I hope that retirement will also be good for him.
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    Sandra, attorneys from the D.A.'s office testified under oath. I would think if anyone knew the penalties for perjury they would. They testified under subpeona and did not willingly give up the goods on Koncilja and Thiebaut.
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    Again - I think it's a defense ploy. The whole thing came out as an attempt to defend a murder suspect.

    Didn't you once mention that one of your sons is an attorney? Ask him how attorneys will often twist things around to their advantage, even if it means attacking the DA's office.

    This city has a real problem with crime. We're on the top 10 of the most dangerous cities in the US to live in based on DOJ stats. We place 9th. Someone, somewhere is going to have to get a little more serious about putting criminals behind bars and keeping them there if this city is ever going to pull itself out of that mess.

    I think that without John's work, this city is going to sink even deeper into that mire. How much longer before Pueblo reaches first place on that list?

    Also, for the record, I have been on the receiving end of twisted testimony - the way questions are worded to the person on the witness stand to make testimony look like something other than what it really is - most attorneys are good at that. Since I wasn't there I'm not going to pass judgment on it - all I have is the newspaper's version. But I also know John personally - maybe not very well - and I've always thought he was a pretty decent guy who has reached out to the community and offered a compassionate helping hand. I don't think he'd have that capacity if he were the monster that some are trying to make him out to be.

    He comes from a family who has given much to this community - Pueblo would be nothing without them. I, for one, appreciate his efforts (and the generosity of his family) and I wish him well in his retirement.
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    In one way John Koncilia was/is a nice guy . . But having known John a long time, I can say that in the past, as a Police Officer, especially when he was the Premier Drug Bust Specialist, he was a tad overzealous most of the time . . The Stoners were deathly afraid of him . . and with good reason. Often they were "found" with lots of grass when they actually had none or as often as not, nothing more than a joint . . And the man didn't know the meaning of "Slack" as in "Cutting a little slack" . . Even his peers sometimes complained about his "Passion" for the job . . .

    I'm guessing that he hasn't cut back much on his "Passionate" way of doing the job . .

    As for either over-investigating or going beyond the parameters set by his office and Boss . . all well and good until you conceal details or facts of a prosecution from either side . . That's the "Old School" of prosecution and why I can't advocate the death penalty . . When the cops and the prosecution decide who's guilty and who's not, the system needs an overhaul of it's rulesets and the people who are there need to be replaced in total . .
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    I wonder if Theibaut has seen the inside of a courtroom since "moot court" in law school?
    "In Schwartz's ruling, he notes that if an affidavit shows an unjustified refusal by the DA to prosecute a person for crime, the judge may require the DA to appear and explain the decision."
    Here is the link from today's Chieftain
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    Today's article kind of dazzles me . . Now the Iannes are pressing the courts to do what a prosecutor could not do, or apparently had little evidence to do.

    Not to mention, how can a judge make a prosecutor press charges against a witness that he promised immunity in trade for testimony. And as far as I know Panariso and Cornelison have never been proven to be embezzelers. The original investigation, if I remember correctly had to do with missing money, that Ianne claimed the two "Witnesses" stole from him (and his business) while they were working for him as accountants . .

    If ONE accountant embezzles $100,000 from you, or your business, you haven't been paying attention to your business, and if TWO different people at different times do it, then you aren't much of a business man . . Making money is only half the end game in business, keeping the profits are the second . . Not to mention, if you were making so much money you didn't miss a couple of hundred thousand, what you were doing to make it might not have been all above board . .

    Add to that, Ianne and his lawyers seem to be kicking a dead horse . . Hell, they couldn't convict Ianne of 89 charges, so how successful could they be on a couple . . that had even less evidence, according to a couple of loose lipped insiders I know . . ?
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